Charlie,
I want to respectfully remind you about another one of your posts, in which you spoke about opinion; NW Opinion is when the assent of the understanding is so far gained by evidence of probability, that it rather inclines to one persuasion than to another, yet not without a mixture of uncertainty or doubting.
The mixture of uncertainty or doubting can be removed or lessened, by removing ones self, as the authority, and relying in/on quotes, and understanding of the words and concepts of a higher authority.
It is rather difficult to remove all opinions, therefore, I do not have a problem with anyone expressing opinions that are supported, in the correct context, as the ideas or concepts are applied in the original material.
It would help me to better understand your heart, Charlie, if I was able to read the exact Scripture references where you are finding the ideas, beliefs, and the faith, that you are posting about.
Thank you very much for your help, in advance!!
The Deeper Life is not found in human opinions! The deeper life is found in the Truth of the Living Words of God; the Spirit of the Word. I apologize for any of my posts that would appear or come across as me or my opinions being an authority! My desire is to only share what I trust is the Holy Spirits Light for our lives; to remove all darkness. Please, always, try the Spirits, as you are instructed to by John, in 1 John 4:1!
Charlie, I wish that I could sit down with you and the Bible, a computer with a concordance, a Strongs Greek and Hebrew Dictionary, a Noah Webster Dictionary and most important, in the presence of the Holy Spirit, to shed Light on any Darkness in what we believe!
The following are verses and concepts that I do not hear talked about very much; which apply to the things that you seem to be talking about in your posts. These concepts require a clear understanding of a few key words. The Holy Spirit is needed to make all the words and concepts form a life giving Truth.
Father - He who begets a child.
Son - A male child; the male issue of a parent, father or mother.
One - Single in number.
This word and concept can only be spiritually defined, by the context of its use, in the Bible, and the understanding of the Holy Spirit.
Some Biblical concepts/uses of the word one:
a man and a prostitute can become one flesh; a husband and wife can become one; the body of true believers is to be one, just like the Father and the Son are one; true believers are to be one with the Father and one with the Son, just like the Father and the Son are one. The later concept is found in Jesus prayer to the Father, as found in John chapter 17.
If - It is used as the sign of a condition, or it introduces a conditional sentence.
In - In denotes present or inclosed, surrounded by limits; as in a house; in a fort; in a city.
abide - to be; to dwell, rest, continue, stand firm, or be stationary for anytime indefinitely
Fruit - 1. In a general sense, whatever the earth produces for the nourishment of animals, or for clothing or profit. 2. In a more limited sense, the produce of a tree or other plant; the last production for the propagation or multiplication of its kind; the seed of plants, or the part that contains the seeds;
I challenge all readers, not just Charlie, to read the following verses in the presence of the Holy Spirit. Look up the key words in a dictionary; go back to the KJ Strongs Dictionary to see what the translated word REALLY means, in the original language. The Holy Spirit will lead you into all Truth!
If this is already confusing to anyone, please read 1 Corinthians 2:9 - 3:4, humbly repent, radically change your spiritual diet and walk in obedience to Scripture as revealed by the Holy Spirit! Try the spirits, reject all spirits that are less than pure and holy; know the spirits by the fruit that they produce!
Mat 7:20 So then, you will recognize them by their fruit. Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fathers commandments, and abide in his love.
1Jn_2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
Mat 12:33-37 Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is known by its fruit. Offspring of vipers! How are you able to say anything good, since you are evil? For the mouth speaks from what fills the heart. (G2588 - the heart, that is, (figuratively) the thoughts or feelings (mind)) The good person brings good things out of his good treasury, and the evil person brings evil things out of his evil treasury. I tell you that on the day of judgment, people will give an account for every worthless word they speak.
For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.
Rom_2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
2Co_5:10 For we must all appear and be revealed as we are before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive [his pay] according to what he has done in the body, whether good or evil [considering what his purpose and motive have been, and what he has achieved, been busy with, and given himself and his attention to accomplishing].
2Th_2:3-4 ...the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction. Who opposes and exalts himself so proudly and insolently against and over all that is called God or that is worshiped, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God. [Eze. 28:2; Dan. 11:36-37]
1Ti_5:24 The sins of some men are conspicuous (openly evident to all eyes), going before them to the judgment [seat] and proclaiming their sentence in advance; but the sins of others appear later [following the offender to the bar of judgment and coming into view there].
Joh 17:14 - 23 (Jesus Praying) I have given and delivered to them Your word (message) and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world [do not belong to the world], just as I am not of the world. I do not ask that You will take them out of the world, but that You will keep and protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world (worldly, belonging to the world), [just] as I am not of the world.
Sanctify them [purify, consecrate, separate them for Yourself, make them holy] by the Truth; Your Word is Truth. Just as You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
Joh 17:19 And so for their sake and on their behalf I sanctify (dedicate, consecrate) Myself, that they also may be sanctified (dedicated, consecrated, made holy) in the Truth.
Neither for these alone do I pray [it is not for their sake only that I make this request], but also for all those who will ever come to believe in (trust in, cling to, rely on) Me through their word and teaching, That they all may be one, [just] as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, ...
...that they also may be one in Us,...
...so that the world may believe and be convinced that You have sent Me. I have given to them the glory and honor which You have given Me, ...
...that they may be one [even] as We are one: I in them and You in Me, ...
...in order that they may become one and perfectly united, that the world may know and [definitely] recognize that You sent Me and that You have loved them [even] as You have loved Me.
1Co 6:19 You surely know that your body is a temple where the Holy Spirit lives. The Spirit is in you and is a gift from God. You are no longer your own.
Gal 5:24 - 25 Now those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also behave in accordance with the Spirit.
Heb 5:8 - 14 Although He was a Son, He learned [active, special] obedience through what He suffered And, [His completed experience] making Him perfectly [equipped], He became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and obey Him, [Isa. 45:17] Being designated and recognized and saluted by God as High Priest after the order (with the rank) of Melchizedek. [Psa. 110:4]
Concerning this we have much to say which is hard to explain, since you have become dull in your [spiritual] hearing and sluggish [even slothful in achieving spiritual insight]. For even though by this time you ought to be teaching others, you actually need someone to teach you over again the very first principles of Gods Word. You have come to need milk, not solid food.
For everyone who continues to feed on milk is obviously inexperienced and unskilled in the doctrine of righteousness (of conformity to the divine will in purpose, thought, and action), for he is a mere infant [not able to talk yet]!
But solid food is for full-grown men, for those whose senses and mental faculties are trained by practice to discriminate and distinguish between what is morally good and noble and what is evil and contrary either to divine or human law.
Pro 2:1 -13 My child, if you receive my words, and store up my commands within you, by making your ear attentive to wisdom, and by turning your heart to understanding, indeed, if you call out for discernment raise your voice for understanding if you seek it like silver, and search for it like hidden treasure, then you will understand how to fear the LORD, and you will discover knowledge about God.
For the LORD gives wisdom, and from his mouth comes knowledge and understanding. He stores up effective counsel for the upright, and is like a shield for those who live with integrity, to guard the paths of the righteous and to protect the way of his pious ones.
Then you will understand righteousness and justice and equity every good way. For wisdom will enter your heart, and moral knowledge will be attractive to you. Discretion will protect you, understanding will guard you, to deliver you from the way of the wicked, from those speaking perversity, who leave the upright paths to walk on the dark ways....
2 Peter 1:3-9 I can pray this because his divine power has bestowed on us everything necessary for life and godliness through the rich knowledge of the one who called us by his own glory and excellence. Through these things he has bestowed on us his precious and most magnificent promises, so that by means of what was promised you may become partakers of the divine nature, after escaping the worldly corruption that is produced by evil desire. {Evil Desire - G1939 - a longing (especially for what is forbidden) ~ From G1937 - to set the heart upon, that is, long for (rightfully or otherwise)}
For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith excellence, to excellence, knowledge; to knowledge, self-control; to self-control, perseverance; to perseverance, godliness; to godliness, brotherly affection; to brotherly affection, unselfish love.
For if these things are really yours and are continually increasing, they will keep you from becoming ineffective and unproductive in your pursuit of knowing our Lord Jesus Christ more intimately. But concerning the one who lacks such things he is blind. That is to say, he is nearsighted, since he has forgotten about the cleansing of his past sins.