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#1 Candice

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 04:52 PM

I have been reading the Book of Ecclesiastes for a few days now.  It is very funny that my husband selected a book on this scripture entitled,  Solomon's Secret, Enjoying life, God's Good Gift by Ray Stedman.  My husband selected it for both of us to read at the same time and discuss.  We seldom share spiritual matters. It just, sadly, hasn't been part of our marriage.  I've complained, so my husband responds by selecting this book. Sweet of him. But the sanguine that he is selected it because its happy.  I am surprised it wasn't my melancholy choice!  Yet, it is anything but happy (at least to me).  I think my husband's wild man bubble is shrinking!!  He takes everything "in stride" as they say.

 

I've read this book a couple of times before, but not with this kind of line upon line approach...it was, in the past, more of a read through.

 

Solomon writes:

 

"There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it lies heavily upon men; a man to whom God gives wealth, possessions and honor, so that he lacks nothing of all that he desires, yet God does not give him power to enjoy them, but a stranger enjoys them.  This is vanity; it is sore affliction."  Ecclesiastes 6:1-2

 

Please feel free to share:

1)  Do you believe enjoyment is a gift from God? How do you know this?

2)  Do you personally find times of enjoyment lacking? 

3)  Ever notice a stranger finds something enjoyable that you cannot?

4)  Feel that God is withholding you the blessing of enjoyment?

5)  Do you have friends, family or others who seem to enjoy God's good gift?

6)  Why to all of the above?

 

The entire Book of Ecclesiastes is quite intense and can be intensely personal as well.

 

The book seems to center upon what I suppose is " enjoyment is a gift from God.". I find that I do not enjoy life.  Not even a few minutes a day any more.  Maybe it's just that depression or anxiety. But, I believe there's more to it.  And, it is a sore affliction.  I don't enjoy movies that have yuck in them (and most do), I don't enjoy much but reading the word, praying and reading.  Even fishing, skiing, and hiking have lost their enjoyment and I don't know why.

 

Anyway, I hope that by the time I've completed this book, I am encouraged; because, right now, I'm not!

 

Any insights from you all is fellowship much appreciated.

 

Love,

Candice

 

 


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 07:04 PM

Candice,

 

I was told once that I have a "robust prophetic motivational gift." They were not referring to foretelling, but forthtelling. In other words, the way I personally manifest an element of God's personality is founded on a strong desire to see righteousness take place. Thus, things that take liberties with God's holiness or righteousness bring about a deep visceral reaction in me. Again, I must repeat, take liberties, with God's holiness, for I am a huge fan of grace. In fact I also react strongly when people force legalism. What bothers me then is carelessness or apathy concerning the enormity of our God and His Person.

 

Therefore, I have a hard time enjoying things that don't respect God. I think Solomon would really have bothered me. He had it all, and he heard from God. Still he squandered his life chasing women and other gods. Fortunately, at the end he rightly stated:

 

Fear God and keep His

commandments

For this is man's all.

For God will bring every work

into judgment.

Including every secret thing,

Whether good or evil.

 

Thus, I take great enjoyment in God's goodness when He is rightly honored in all of His holiness. Unfortunately, there are few places left in our world today that do this. It is getting darker by the day. I can only assume that the end is near. There is also a feeling in my own heart that the Holy Spirit is horribly grieved, and that has made me much more serious lately. I think it's going to get worse, and we need to think about bringing as many as we can into God's kingdom.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:26 PM

Candice,

 

forgive me if I don't answer all those questions. Yet I somehow want to react to your post. I believe the Father does want us to enjoy life, to enjoy his gift, his gifts, and the fellowship with his Gift. 

 

I have also come to believe that enjoyment and joy are preceded by thanksgiving, which is the will of the Father, through Christ Jesus.

 

Probably everyone has already experienced the fact that we start to appreciate the things/people when they are no more around. I believe these occasions are God's way of telling us to open our eyes and enjoy what He has so graciously given us.

 

I don't know if you ever heard of Ann Voskamp and her book of One Thousand Gifts, but here is a glimpse: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=GhOUaszMGvQ

 

May God bless you with the ability to notice him in the "now".


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 03:18 AM

In my struggle to be free.....see my struggle implies I am alone,and struggle I do so much that all I have to hold onto is Jesus but then He is my all in all because of Himself not me.There are many moments I think God just take me now, my heart cannot hold any more sadness and grief for those all around me and I am overcome with despair.In those moments which come and go all day everyday I am always refreshed by His grace somehow in ways I cannot explain I will choose to trust Jesus and believe and even ask Him to help me in my disbelief,Just hold onto His promises and know He has you and these dark moments will pass,this refining is making us new and better as He sees fit,so hard this waiting yet wait on Him I will and pray for myself and others on the narrow road and even those stumbling around seeking that road I pray Jesus opens their eyes to see He is there,I lift you up in prayer,Candice and extend my hand to help with love in Christ....
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Posted 21 October 2013 - 04:37 AM

Candace, I just woke up, so I cannot, in order...one through six, answer your questions. But you have opened up a great avenue for me to share about the subject of "enjoyment of life" as it pertains to me.  .......I DON'T enjoy life. That is precisely why I made a thread the other day about the manifest presence of God. Because I'm freaking lonesome (if there's a tone of frustration in my post....it's not toward you Candace, not at all).

  Let me interject this, although it is unrelated, directly. I have had several experiences.  How many times in my life have I had fellwo Christians, (in person) tell me: "Kevin? Don't you think that God has called you to preach?"  When a visiting evangelist came to the church that I used to feel very loyal and passionate about (in the early to mid 90's), he touched me on the forehead and I found myself on the floor. And you have never met a more cynical or skeptical person than me about outward manifestations of the Holy Spirit. But he "Prophesied over me" (the visiting evangelist) that I would be a preacher, prophet, and I don't recall every word. Time has a way of taking away the intensity of these "possibly" Divine enhanced pronouncements, but I recall after that night, I  signed up and began taking a correspondence course called Bereans (Assembly of God correspondence college). I took that evangelist's words to the very heart. But soon after, a lady visited the church , who was in the middle of a divorce, and I was playing the piano that night and she noticed (her words) that I had no wedding ring on....so she zoomed in. (yes, I really 'had it' in those days.....HA!) We were marryed in a month.  My correspondence college went out the window. My jail ministry went out the window. In two years I was starting to use drugs to change the way I feel. (got some pain pills from a dentist) and that simply started another long debacle with drugs and all the attending miseries...including jail time, prison time, misery upon untold misery.  (I am accurate in my telling of this, yet summarizing drastically)  AFTER our marriage day, I finally fell deeply in love with this .......lady? and when I got divorce papers from her lawyer (while I was at Teen Challenge in Memphis....a year long Christian Rehab (Assembly of God.....of course) , I was devastated, to understate my situation. She had promised that if I "got help" that we would make it work. But the rehab just got me out of the way where she could work on finding Number Three. She found him, WHILE we were technically still married. (I kept tabs on her from the rehab through the church secretary (they know EVERYTHING!...lol) Okay.....end of 'interjection'!

    Back to "enjoyment of life".  Being a single man, after knowing what was like, allbeit briefly, to have a family (she couldn't have children, but already had one from the previous marriage) it sometimes make matters difficult and very frustrating.  Then, I read in Genesis where God Himself says "It is not good for man to be alone." and I say "Yes, God, I agree.".  But alas, my personality is such that I find that I can stomach being alone easier, or better, than going through all the trouble of a courtship and subsequent marriage,

   So I cry out to God, that I am, much of the time, very unhappy!!!  "Righteousness, peace, and JOY in the Holy Ghost....THAT'S the kingdom of God" says the inspired writer (am I starting to sound like Tozer.....I have read him enough....lol) and I wonder why God is with-holding from me anything that would make life bearable down here. I am nowhere near wanting to go take a dive off the bridge. Oh I am much to chicken to do that. Plus, I wouldn't be sure about my fate in the Judgement. I mean....what gives me the right to destroy God's temple? Whether a bit at a time.....or instantly.  

   I have all the big boy toys (bows, guns, metal detectors, etc) and after I go through a season of obsessing over them and trying fervently to milk every last ounce of joy from them, I find, in th end, that they are merely so much wood, and metal, and unable to provide me with a bit of happiness. I have tried it all. No joy.  I have thrown myself upon God (that is where I am at now). I have read and re-read Tozer's article entitled: The Saint Must Walk Alone.  I could identify with it word for word. But still, there is this emptiness in me that I cannot seem to fill.  Then, I read people saying (Tozer included) when you "Get It" ( be baptized in the Holy Spirit).....you'll know it.  Well.....I don;t know it. I am beginning to suspect that I am genetically hard wired to be grouchy and unhappy like my Daddy was.  My brothers and sisters (blood) seem to engage life in the same manner as I have. Looking for something to take away the overall unhappiness.  In closing, I want to say, that I have never been closer to God than I am now. It seems that we are on a day by day communicating basis.  But then I start doubting myself and wonder if my screwed up head has merely created me an imaginary friend to get me through.  Many many times, I have asserted...to God and to a few others, that as long as my mother is alive, and needs me, that I wish to remain here. But after her affliction has taken her life, THEN.....I am quite ready. I have nothing here that I feel is worth staying for.  Now tell me.....I am one mixed up cat, aren't I???  (I'm crazy as a bat.....that's what I think) In retrospect, I think that we'd all been better off if I simply answered your questions, one through six, and kept much of my feelings to myself.  But that is what is foremost in my......mind......this morning. Maybe I am going through one of them 'crisis' that the old, departed, saints say that we all have to go through to "get it". If so.....I should be expecting a BIG dose.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 02:01 PM

Lori,

Yes, yes and yes!  I agree, and really hate to admit to anyone in the church at-large, that I feel kind of sick of Solomon. But, then again, who would I be to talk.  It isn't a comparison game with God as he's no respecter or persons. Sin is sin whether it's with hundreds of wives and concubines and eventually bowing down to their little gods.  I think he was a sex addict.  But then again....who am I??  It is difficult to know if the LORD is believing Solomon the hypocrite here.  I see some cross-referencing in the scriptures.  But, overall, the Lord called Solomon wise. 

 

Ysa and Elizabeth,

 

I see your points very well.  Enjoyment, as Lori says, is in the things of the LORD, but does that also include the physical world? Does God care about the physical world?  It appears He does because he knows the birds!  He says He even cares about that.

 

"Charge them that are rich in this world,

that they be not high-minded, nor trust in uncertain riches,

but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy." 

                                                                                            1 Tim. 6:17

Kevin,

I hear you brother!  I really do.  My husband wonders why I'm not happy.  I tell him it isn't about a goal of being happy for me.  It is just serving that would be the enjoyment. I really want to get my RN over the next two years and go abroad to serve where there are people who won't complain about their government entitlements in healthcare. They're just so overjoyed to get a bandaid and a squeeze of the hand.  This is pure "JOY"  "ENJOYMENT" to me.....but, maybe I'm altruistic.  Hoping the LORD will increase my enjoyment this way.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 02:13 PM

Kevin,

Also, I'm so sorry for the loss of your marriage(s).  I do believe in marriage and the gift of being single, which apparently you value as well.  The LORD is good no matter what state we're in.  I wouldn't trade it, but I know I could have been single had I not wanted a family.  But, even that fades and is chasing wind.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 02:38 PM

Solomon writes:

 

"There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it lies heavily upon men; a man to whom God gives wealth, possessions and honor, so that he lacks nothing of all that he desires, yet God does not give him power to enjoy them, but a stranger enjoys them.  This is vanity; it is sore affliction."  Ecclesiastes 6:1-2

 

Please feel free to share:

1)  Do you believe enjoyment is a gift from God?

     Auto thoughts: "The joy of the Lord is our strength"...  He endured the cross for "The joy that was set before Him"....

How do you know this?  Auto though: In spirit it seems we are sustained through all the 'stuff' that we experience that is so far from 'feeling' joy.  So I ponderingly ask, How do we come to know the joy of the Lord?  Was the Lord joyously happy about anything on the earth beyond coming to die so that we can live and have eternal life without all the baggage?  He cared for each person and knew each heart and each act and loved each completely and totally... and continues to love and be in us and with us 'Through it all'...

 

Seems that we are experiencing much of the same despair about a lot of things in this old world that is going to one day be replaced with a new heaven and a new earth. So this 'current moment' I can 'reach out' and 'reach in' to the humanity that our Lord took on and gave to each of us and just ask for what He wants us to have and to share and be at one with one another about, in and through.

 

Candice, Lori, Ysa, Elizabeth and Kevin your shares do foster some joy .....

Maybe it is joy unspeakable and full of glory that comes to mind ...

Just reading these posts lets me know a bit more about being in the body of Christ for this moment... and somehow there is a sense of the 'oneness' with the ONE....

 

Personally I get caught up in a lot of 'stuff' thinking that has to do with what's wrong with me and what I'm failing to do... do da, do da, do da..... in other words my focus is narrowed to self-centeredness... 

 

The things each of you have written are a blessing and let me know there is a 'WE' and it's okay to have a 'me' and for 'us' to be coming together as we can and do via posting....

 

God bless each of you for giving so much of yourselves Just as you are.... What a fellowship....

 

My words may just be a convoluted mess... just posting because you've somehow let me experience something that has to do with enjoying .... can't explain beyond the word 'fellowship"....

 

Thank you for the original post Candice...

 

I do know what lack of joy feels like.... even what despair feels like.... and yet the fellowship of the saints somehow keeps a God breeze gently blowing ....

 

Thank you!!!  Yes, I do believe enjoyment is a gift from God and given each time we enjoy anything... a sip of cold water on a hot day.  I sip of something hot on a cold day.... just a tiny thing perhaps.... A post that quickens the mind and heart is a 'huge' thing ... enjoying one another for brief moments....

 

Thanking God for the gift of enjoyment and asking for us to recognize enjoying something moment by moment, by grace...

 

Thank you again...

 

Reflecting on "The chief end of man...."

 

Love,

Ginger


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 04:38 PM

I'm thinking of this verse in relationship to enjoyment (or lack thereof) and loneliness.  I believe that maybe many Christians are far from lonely ...they're busy, busy, busy and willing to be in any type of "fellowship" or activities in order to satisfy some needs that only Jesus can meet:

 

"...the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables." 2 Timothy 4:2-4



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 05:10 PM

reckon I was thinking from the position of older folks who don't have much fellowship and live alone... personally it takes me so long to do a wee tiny bit that anything I may physically do that may be of benefit to another seems rather small... Prayer is not small so to be content and give thanks is in order for me this now moment too.... Blessings of enjoyment... :-) 



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:18 PM

I am thinking that maybe many Christians STAY busy to keep for wallowing in the occasional self-pity that springs from lonliness. I have always been a self-centered man, and I was frigid cold towards others lonliness.  When someone, who might happen to be fishing with me, or just hanging out, would say something like: "Ya know....I feel sorry for old so and so because he lives alone and I bet that he is terribly lonely."  But I would merely shrug my shoulders and say "yeah".  And then try to steer the conversation back to me.

  There ARE Christians who, at times, feel TERRIBLE lonliness. To doubt that would be amazingly cold.

  I have felt lonliness. And I stay busy. And I don't seek the fellowship of the world to fill that vaccum. I look for a church of Jesus Loving and worshipping folks. It fills the need quite well.  I  don't even like to go in Wal Mart during the day.  So, in many ways, I LIKE being a loner. But I dislike being lonesome. Almost paradoxical, but it is what it is.

 "Oh God, give me a tender heart for Christians who are alone and yet refuse to show it for fear that they will be judged."   Still...I LOVE the Tozer article "The Saint Must Walk Alone".  He pretty much nails it. In my opinion.


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 06:37 AM

Thanks Kevin ... I do identify about liking to be alone.  Don't know that I get lonely but sometimes do feel a sense of lonesomeness ... this may not make much sense...

 

One time (many years ago) I'd been working with a horse and she got a case of the whinnies... like a horse crying.... Well, I asked an old timer what was going on and he said she was herd bound and if I took her where she could see another horse she'd be fine and then I could go back to working with her....

 

Seems that there is a decorum that is to be met in most public settings including church... don't know what to post to say it well.... we can go to any kind of a people event and be superficially involved...  reckon this forum is a place where I've experienced some folks being gut-level honest and it's just helpful... a different type of fellowship ... don't have to look our Sunday go to meeting best....   can just be okay to share and post what is on our mind and heart at whatever level of comfort we feel to share... don't know how to convey what is shared that just blesses so much... If and when we hurt we can put it in a post and folks care and share...

 

Yep, reckon we do walk alone... and I'm glad for a grin too.... yet we can walk together for brief moments in our journey too... well, I feel so blessed to read the shares and can only say, thank you.... 

 

Looked up a link to share Tozer article and I do like it too...

 

A.W. Tozer : The Saint Must Walk Alone
http://www.sermonind...article&aid=133


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 07:15 AM

The article  The Saint Must Walk Alone is chapter 39.  Don't know if this is the place to post this link or not...

 

Hope it's alright to post this... Man, the Dwelling Place of God by A. W. Tozer.  

 

The book that the article is from

http://www.dailybrea...lace of God.pdf

 

 

 


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Posted 22 October 2013 - 02:06 PM

Once I went to a place to worship God with others,it was church,I was so lonely and then felt bad about feeling bad so I determined I must be doing something wrong,I will be nicer smile more talk more or be quiet more dress up more or dress down so others wont feel I am prideful or competing with them I will say yes to everything because they need me...I smiled on the outside but cried or screamed inside as the more I did and became for everyone else the further from Jesus I got this madness and confusion just plain wore me out so that I caused myself to become useless.I have autisim(very high functioning and only recently diagnosed so I am still figuring this thorn in my side out,see when people say one thing but do or mean another my mind cant understand that and also lying is almost impossible for me so seeing when others are being dishonest is very hard,I am so thankful for all of you here and you have so many times helped me in ways God has allowed through the Holy Spirit...this fellowship means so muc,I pray for less of me and more of Jesus for all of us,love in Christ
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Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:13 PM

Elizabeth,

 

You are so very precious!  It is so hard to have to deal with autism and similar things.  I was put on disability back in 1986... I so identify with what you've just shared.  I tried to describe what it was like.   Just wound up trying to make a joke about getting a monthly check because I was a red-head. Now, I'm past 70 and just have some difficulties that go beyond aging.  It can be hard to explain how any type of disability affects a person and the effects on daily functioning. 

 

A couple of people (perhaps more) have said that I lack self-discipline and said what I needed or should or should not do.... Yes, I do lack self-discipline in doing many things.  And in some things I will stay at it till I all but drop.   Most of the time it seems that I fall down in doing simple tasks in a consistent manner .... I judge my performance or choice as poor and can't make myself get up and do the right thing at the right time .... no matter what I think I should choose to do in order to change the things I can change as some have said.... I do know that  If I make a choice to post, or be at the computer and get 'stuck' in doing whatever other things are neglected... It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that we make choices.....  So I Reckon I'm just going to accept that I make choices and sometimes just have to trust that GOD KNOWS that whatever I or another may suppose can be detrimental in even beginning to foster a change in habit or pattern ...

 

Humanly speaking, I don't even know what the bottom line is any more regarding productivity... It has been said that we only move in the direction of our current dominate thought.... Gee, do I know what my current dominate thought is?  God KNOWS, people suppose... God loves us.... Jesus died for 'all' of our sins and we matter to Him...

 

Maybe God protects  some of us from some things by allowing a lack of or limited functioning ability.... Possibly God even equips us for His purposes by allowing difficulties or a disability.  I don't know what makes some folks be able to change and be very productive and task oriented and others lack productivity in the things that can be seen... Perhaps I lack self-discipline, determination and persistence... Perhaps I'm just lazy.... Perhaps I may be doing the best I can ... All I know is shame and blame are not helpful and not good for any person....

 

Perhaps kindnesses can't be measured or for that matter the lack of kindness... the affects and effects that kindness or unkindness  cause can have immeasurable differences....  O LORD help us to be kind and tenderhearted toward any person, in thought and in deed... please and thank you... by your tender mercies and grace, in Jesus name, amen.

 

Thank you Elisabeth for sharing about having had a recent diagnosis of autism .... thank you for your generosity in sharing and thank you for being so kind and tenderhearted...  

 

God bless you with manifold grace in dealing with anything pertaining to autism... and all else too...

 

I  surely have gone on a very long ramble and just going to perhaps impose upon graces and generosities....

 

Grace and peace,

 

In Christ's love,

Ginger


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:38 AM

Thank you Elizabeth, for your sharing. I have found your posts to be very uplifting, full of wisdom, and 'spot on'.  And may God bless you for your transparency. 

  And Ginger, your post have been equally awesome as well.  I'm in a rush this morning and count expound and give everyone their due credit.  But I'll be back on at some point.

  A quick share: I was always completely let-down  when I didn't get the approval of people in authority. I mean...in a serious way. ie: deep depression, feelings of self-loathing,  feelings of complete worthlessness. etc etc  And those are just the mild ones. lol


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 07:34 PM

For in much wisdom is much vexation,
  and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow. (Ecclesiastes 1:16-18 RSV)

 

Shalom,

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:26 AM

Hi Radar,

 

Been wondering about you and have missed you posting.  Hope all is going well with and for you.  It's a blessing to have your post ...

 

God bless

 

Shalom,

 

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:52 AM

 An excerpt from Matthew Henry on Ecclesiastes 1:12-18

 

4. Upon the whole, therefore, he concluded that great scholars do but make themselves great mourners; for in much wisdom is much grief, Ecc_1:18. There must be a great deal of pains taken to get it, and a great deal of care not to forget it; the more we know the more we see there is to be known, and consequently we perceive with greater clearness that our work is without end, and the more we see of our former mistakes and blunders, which occasions much grief. The more we see of men's different sentiments and opinions (and it is that which a great deal of our learning is conversant about) the more at a loss we are, it may be, which is in the right. Those that increase knowledge have so much the more quick and sensible perception of the calamities of this world, and for one discovery they make that is pleasing, perhaps, they make ten that are displeasing, and so they increase sorrow. Let us not therefore be driven off from the pursuit of any useful knowledge, but put on patience to break through the sorrow of it; but let us despair of finding true happiness in this knowledge, and expect it only in the knowledge of God and the careful discharge of our duty to him. He that increases in heavenly wisdom, and in an experimental acquaintance with the principles, powers, and pleasures of the spiritual and divine life, increases joy, such as will shortly be consummated in everlasting joy.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:51 PM

Hi Ginger and thanks for the kind words. I check in from time to time on the forum but I make it a point to read the daily devotional. I also like Matthew Henry!

 

This is the start of the busy season for our ministry. Besides the two daily feeding ministries, the children, street, jail, and visitation, we serve free Thanksgiving and Christ mas meals in the Triad of NC. There are just a handful of people who prepare the 4,500 meals that will be eat on two sites or delivered to homes. We get a lot of community support for the deliveries Praise God! or it would take us a week to deliver that many to everyone who asks. Here is an article with a nice picture slideshow of some of the members who went to New York for the Hurricane Sandy relief effort last year who took time from that main ministry to feed everyone who asked for a Thanksgiving meal there. I just ask that everyone here pray for us please.We have cooked about 170 turkeys with only 130 to go! The great news is a local realtor started fundraising with other business in the area about 17 years ago to raise money for the food. We are a very small ministry of about 30 people but we serve a very BIG GOD!

 

http://www.huffingto..._b_2201364.html

 

Shalom,

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