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#1 Candice

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 10:41 AM

What does this mean:  praying for breakthrough, meditating and fasting for breakthrough?
 
I kind of get it and kind of don't.  I guess I view it as receiving what I ask for whether that be an answer to a problem, the solution to a problem or just understanding something in general or more specifically, receiving revelation about something in the Word of God.
 
Does God really promise if we do these things: pray, meditate (on His word) and fast that we will "breakthrough"?
 
Right now, I think I may have some (not a lot) of breakthrough on how to communicate  and consider God before I respond to something someone has said or done...

Can you give me some examples of how you experienced breakthrough...

 

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 12:32 PM

I'm not going to claim a definitive answer but this is how I see it and have experienced it.

 

I have found this breakthru thing most often associated with intercessory prayer.  I do not believe, as do many, that intercessory prayer is simply praying for someone or something else.  True intercession is associated with a spiritual burden that the Lord lays on our hearts on behalf of someone or something, most often not for ourselves but that can be the case sometimes, too.  When you have this burden the only solution is to pray.  It is prayer that brings the only relief.  The breakthru is when you have prayed and at some point you feel the burden lifted.  You have a sense that the answer has been given.  It is a release from this burden that had been put on you and it is wonderful.  Now this can happen in one session of prayer or prayer over a very long time.  It can be years even.  And you may not even have a sense of what you have been praying for or why nor do you necessarily know what the answer was.  There is simply a witness in your spirit that the matter is put to rest.  

I've had experience thru stories of my great-grandmother and my own grandmother was a great prayer warrior.  My grandmother and grandfather were friends of Smith Wigglesworth.  Grandma didn't care for him much but she did identify him as a man of great prayer.  I had a senior pastor who taught on prayer a lot and we were a very prayer oriented church.  A number of older saints would come thru on visits to the church and I think that prayer was probably their most common theme.  And a huge part of prayer to all of these was carrying their burdens thru prayer until the breakthru.

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Posted 09 May 2015 - 11:46 AM

I came across this today and it seemed to speak generally to the question, here.  

 

One of my supporters is quite old now. She has been a prayer partner with my mom for years. She was there in Long Beach with Dawson Trotman at the founding of the Navigators after WWII. When I asked her what one truth about prayer she'd like to pass on to me, she said, “The secret of praying through an issue.”

“What is that?” I asked.

“That means praying about an issue until God gives you peace in your spirit that it is accomplished.”

Turns out, this is a discipline that former generations understood better than we do.

Missionary to China, J. O. Fraser practiced this powerful reality. He said this:

"We must be prepared for serious warfare, 'and having done all, to stand,' we must fight through, and then stand victorious on the battlefield. Is not this another secret of many unanswered prayers, that they are not fought through?

If the result is not seen as soon as expected, Christians are apt to lose heart, and if it is still longer delayed, to abandon it altogether. You know the name they give to places in England when the building (or whatever it is) is abandoned, when only half of it is completed- So and so's 'Folly'. I wonder whether some of our prayers do not deserve the same stigma.  

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